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What's really sad: Bioshock

Tue Mar 10, 2009, 6:22 PM
I own Bioshock for the Xbox 360, which is a First person shooter/ Role Playing Game hybrid, which won multiple awards, and received numerous praise.

Now you may be thinking that I'm bashing the game, well I'm not, in fact I like Bioshock...a little. The game looks great, tells an epic story (or Re telling a story) and the gameplay is a little bit more than just run and gun.

Bioshock is a fun game...that was, until I managed to get a hold of a playable demo of it's previous sibbling, System shock 2. After playing that one small demo...I replayed it, and replayed it, I must have re played it three times so far (I could try the harder modes, but I'm not sure).

It's sad that I'm playing a demo, more than I am a full game. Getting to the point, there's a lot of old school SS2 fans that played Bioshock, and...to take a quote from Yatzee, "Yatzee you charismatic stallion, what kind of complaint is that? System Shock 2 was brilliant, any game in any way like it should be equally good. But that's the thing, it isn't like System shock 2, IT IS SYSTEM SHOCK 2" .

Bioshock is basically a Biopunk/ Steampunk re telling of SS2, or so I heard. After playing that short demo, I realized that all of the critics and SS2 fans are wrong. Why, well let's compair.

System shock 2 has upgradable stats, an inventory system, and weapons that can break.

Bioshock features no stats, no inventory, and weapons can only run out of ammo.

I would also goes as far as to say SS2 is more scary than Bioshock, and that's saying a lot for a game that's graphically inferior to a game that had more artists than game designers.

I wonder why game developers feel the need to strip out all of the complex features of our favorite games? Deus ex had nice statistics, but it's sequel removed all stats. Elder scrolls Oblivion removed the in depth character creation of Daggerfall, and Fallout 3 is basically Oblivion with guns, and we all know how stat heavy Oblivion was.

I do understand that games have to be scaled down a little bit for others to enjoy (that's why I enjoy Might and Magics 3 through 5) but there's a fine line between making it easier on the player, and just dumbing it down completely.

Were not idiots, in fact, game developers will be surprised that were still good at games today, as we were back then. We can adapt, learn quickly, improvise, rationalize, all that jazz. We need more complex games...mainly more complex FPS/RPG hybrids. Don't continue to fuck them up people. FPS/RPG hybrids are, after all, the Lays potato chips of video games.

  • Mood: Peaceful
  • Listening to: System shock theme
  • Reading: The Automatic Detective
  • Watching: nothin
  • Playing: System shock 2 demo
  • Eating: Coffee
  • Drinking: Coffee

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:iconkingofkof:
Ok I think I need to comment here. First off, if you're going to paraphrase me, please make sure you are correct. I don't hate shooters, I never said that because it's not true. I hate BAD shooters, but I hate bad games in general. I can enjoy a well made shooter just as much as the next guy, and my friends on PSN can attest to that, especially when it comes to COD4. If I hated shooters, then why did I spend so much time convincing my friends to check out Killzone 2 so we could play? Just because I prefer RPGs doesn't mean I hate every other genre. I'm not one of these blind gamers who picks a genre and never strays away from it, I'm always up for trying something new.
:iconanime-underdog:
Re reading through my post, your right. I'll go correct it.

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Who needs realism?
:iconbaschsaget:
At first, I held a sort of unfounded grudge for the game. But as I kept hearing more and more about it, I really wanted to give it a try. My friend has rented it on several occasions, but I've never had the opportunity to play it. Once I get a PS3, I might buy it.

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Toad.
:iconanime-underdog:
Well don't let me stop you, I'm just ranting. It's actually not a bad game, it's just a step down from SS2.

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Who needs realism?
:iconbaschsaget:
I've never played System Shock 2. It was featured on Xplay's top ten scariest games of all time list, but I've been holding a bit of a grudge towards them lately.

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Toad.
:iconanime-underdog:
I understand why you would take a grudge against them. From what I hear, G4 focuses more on making fun of things, than actually going into detail.
Not only that, but almost all of there shows have little or nothing to do with video games.

Anyway, trust me when I say that almost everybody, EVERYBODY who grew up with computer games in the 90s, loved the game. It combined RPG, FPS, and horror perfectly.

In fact, I had a few scares when I first played it too, and that's from a game that had out of date graphics. It had a few cheap scares, but it was more effective in the mindfuck department.
When you set off a camera, you can hear whispers. When a zombie creaps up on you, he has three voices...but the best part...

...there's a monkey, that can shoot fireballs at you. I repeat, a monkey that shoots fireballs at you.

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Who needs realism?
:iconbaschsaget:
Cops, Cheaters, Chaser's War on Everything (it's an above average show, but by NO means does it belong on G4), Whacked Out Videos...man, I can't believe they purposely raped themselves. What happened to shows like Filter, Cheat! (sure, it's got its own Xplay segment, but you can't honestly say that counts), Pulse (I know AOTS took over, but still), and Cinematech? Even Xplay got rid of most of the things that made it an enjoyable program and turned itself into a more news-oriented show. I can't believe that shit.

Nice. You know where I can find it? At some point, I'd really like to try it out. I wouldn't think they'd have it on Steam.

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Toad.
:iconanime-underdog:
System shock 2 has not by any means been digital released, but there's a demo for the game on File planet, plus you can find a copy of the game on sites like amazon and half.com.

File planet needs you to make an account, but once you do, you can download all sorts of demos for free. They've got a few old game demos. Although, try to keep your password on a sheet of paper, it's always nice to know it. xD

Plus, the game does have problems running on modern systems. SS2 can be played if you don't have a duel core processor. If, like me, you just have one processor, then you good to go. If not, you can just turn one of the processors off temporarily.

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Here's an FAQ to how and run the game as well, sure it counts for demos as well.

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Who needs realism?
:iconbaschsaget:
Thanks. I just hope my computer's not too shitty to the point where it's incapable of running it.

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Toad.

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